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  • 2016 Quantico Vintage Precision Rifle Match

    The Quantico Shooting Club has published the details to the event:

    VINTAGE PRECISION RIFLE TEAM MATCH

    April 16 & 17 (foul weather date April 23 & 24), 2016
    Registration starts at 0700 at the club house. Firing will begin at 0900 daily.

    http://quanticoshootingclub.com/index.php

    Parking will be in the Weapon Bn parking lot by the flag pole. The only authorized vehicles down range will be the RSO and OIC. Special consideration will be made for anyone who is handicap.

    Rifles Allowed: Any rifle configuration or item of equipment that is not mentioned in these rules or that is contrary to the intent and spirit of these rules is prohibited. CMP Rules: 6.0 with the addition of Vietnam Era Rifles, M40A1, A3, A5’s, and M24 ONLY. NO F-CLASS OR F-T/R rifles. See additional info below.

    Targets: Conventional SR & SR-3C, MR-1.

    Rests: Sand bags or pack that the shooters will provide for themselves. NO BIPODS, REAR REST OR MONO-POD. The butt of the rifle will be supported by the shooters shoulder and non-firing hand or sand sock only.

    Relays: Squading will take place on the 300 yard line. We are attempting to have paid pit pullers for a fee of $20 per shooter per day. If there isn’t enough paid pit pullers then relays 1 and 2 will shoot 1st on Sat, 3 and 4 will shoot first on Sun.

    There will be 3 categories: Vintage, Vietnam and Modern. We would like to avoid mixed categories if possible.

    Saturday:
    MATCH 1: 300-yd prone, 5 minute sighter period for both shooters, 15 record shots per shooter, 10 sec. exposures, using the SR target.

    MATCH 2: 600-yd prone, 5 minute sighter period for both shooters, 15 record shots per shooter, 15 sec. exposures, using the SR-3 target.

    1300 lunch break.

    MATCH 3: 600-yd prone slow fire (pull and mark each shot), 2 sighters, and 20 record shots per shooter, using the SR-3 target (47 minutes/team).

    Sunday:
    MATCH 4: 800-yd prone slow fire, unlimited sighters, and 20 record shots per shooter using the MR-1 target (50 minutes /team).

    MATCH 5: 1000-yd prone slow fire, unlimited sighters, and 20 record shots per shooter using the MR-1 target (50 minutes /team).

    Entry Fees:
    QSC members: $15/day Guest Fees: $20/day Pit Puller Fee: $20/day

    Allowed rifles
    See CMP Rules: 6.0 http://thecmp.org/wp-content/uploads/CMPGamesRules.pdf

    M70:
    • Action: Winchester Model 70 long action with claw or push feed.
    • Optic: Unertl, Lyman Super Targetspot 8x, 10x, 12x with 1.5” front obj ¾” tube. Recoil spring will be removed. 3-9x 40mm Redfield w/ Redfield jr mount. Original or reproduction scopes and mount. No picitinny scope mount or scopes with tubes larger than 1”.
    • Barrel Length: 24” Heavy target barrel.
    • Caliber: 30.06
    • Stock: Wood sporter or marksman stock w/ glass bedded action.

    M40:
    • Action: Remington 700.
    • Optic: Redfield 3-9x 40mm w/ Redfield jr mount. Original or reproduction scopes and mounts. No target knobs, picitinny scope mount or scopes with tubes larger than 1”.
    • Barrel Length: 24” Remington Varmint contour.
    • Caliber: .308 Winchester / 7.62mm NATO
    • Stock: wood sporter type with integral cheek rest and glass bedded action.

    M21:
    • Action: M1A or M14 no lugs.
    • Optic: M84, Redfield 3-9x 40mm with or without ART, Leatherwood 3-9x ARTII, and M-1000 2.5-10x 44mm. Original or reproduction scopes and mounts. No scopes with tubes larger than 1”
    • Barrel: Standard weight barrel only. No Medium or Heavy Barrels.
    • Caliber: .308 Winchester / 7.62mm NATO
    • Stock: Standard Mil spec wood stock and glass bedded action. No heavy contour match stocks.
    • The gas cylinder and front band may be unitized.
    • Flash hiders may be reamed.



    M40A1:
    • Action: Remington 700.
    • Optic: Redfield 3-9x 40mm, Weaver T-10, Unertl or USO MST-100 10x with Redfield jr or Unertl clip slot mount. Original or reproduction scopes and mounts. No picitinny scope mount or scopes with tubes larger than 1”.
    • Barrel Length: 24” Medium-heavy target barrel.
    • Caliber: .308 Winchester / 7.62mm NATO
    • Stock: McMillan A1 fiberglass stock and glass bedded action.

    M40A3:
    • Action: Remington 700.
    • Optic: Unertl or USO MST-100 10x or S&B PM II LP 3–12×50 DD Ross or Badger 30 min base with Badger Rings.
    • Barrel Length: 24” Medium-heavy target barrel.
    • Caliber: .308 Winchester / 7.62mm NATO
    • Stock: McMillan A4 fiberglass stock and glass bedded action.

    M40A5:
    • Action: Remington 700.
    • Optic: S&B PM II LP 3–12×50 or Premier Reticle Heritage 3-15x50mm. DD Ross or Badger 30 min base with Badger rings.
    • Barrel Length: 24” Medium-heavy target barrel w/ Surefire MB762SSAL/RE.
    • Caliber: .308 Winchester / 7.62mm NATO
    • Stock: McMillan A4 fiberglass stock and glass bedded action.

    M24:
    • Action: Long Action Remington 700.
    • Optic: Leupold Ultra M3A 10×42mm or Leupold Mk 4 LR/T M3 10×40mm. Leupold base and rings.
    • Barrel Length: 24” Medium-heavy target barrel.
    • Caliber: .308 Winchester / 7.62mm NATO
    • Stock: H-S Precision PST-024.

    SVD Dragunov:
    • Optic: PSO-1 4x fixed.
    • Barrel Length: 24”.
    • Caliber: 7.62x54R
    • Stock: Skeletonized wooden stock.

    M1903A4:
    • (03A3 receiver, 03A3 hand-guard, no sights, C stock or scant-type stock)
    • M73B1 (Weaver 330C 2.5X telescope), M73B2, M81, M82, M84, 4x Stith-Kollmorgan. Non-issue scopes: Lyman Alaskan, Weaver K2.5
    • .30-06 cal.


    1941A1 Springfield:
    • (C stock, Standard 1903 sights with Unertl type scope on Unertl type mounts and bases)
    • Winchester A5, Winchester B5, Winchester B3, USMC original issue: Unertl 8X

    Sniper Telescope, Non-issue scopes: Unertl, Lyman or Fekker 6X or 8X scope with up to a 1.5” objective; Leatherwood Malcolm 3X or 6X, Note: All scopes must have external
    adjustment and no recoil spring.
    • .30.06 cal.


    M1C and M1D:
    • M81 (Lyman), M82, M84, Non-issue: Stith-Kollmorgan 4X, Lyman Alaskan
    • .30.06 cal.

    SAFN/M1949 (semi auto)
    .30-06, 7 mm, 7.65 mm, 8 mm
    (Used by
    several countries)
    OPI 4X scope, Echo mount

    Germany: Switzerland:
    8x57 mm Gewehr 98 7.5 mm M1931/42 Sniper Rifle
    8x57 mm Karbine 98 7.5 mm M1931/43 Sniper Rifle
    ZF4, ZF39, ZF41 1.8X in M1931/42,
    Non-issue: Weaver K4 2.8X in M1931/43,
    Gewehr 43 or Karbine 43 (semi-auto)
    ZF4

    Great Britain and Commonwealth USSR:
    Countries: 7.62 mm M1891/30 Mosin Nagant
    .303 cal. No. 1, Mk III Series SMLE PE, PU
    Aldis, Periscopic Prism scope, 7.62 mm Tokarev M 1938 (SVT-38)
    Winchester A5, William Malcolm 3X 7.62 mm Tokarev M 1940 (SVT-40)
    or 6X PU

    Great Britain and Commonwealth Yugoslavia & Czechoslovakia:
    Countries: 7.92 mm M1948 (YUG)
    .303 cal. Enfield No. 3 Mark I (T) or 7.92 mm VZ 24, with 24” or 30” barrels
    Pattern 1914 (T) or P-14 (T) (CZE)
    M1918 Telescope, Aldis, Periscopic ZF4, ZF39 variants, ZF41
    Prism scope, Winchester A5, Non-issue: Weaver K4
    William Malcolm 3X
    Great Britain and Commonwealth Sweden:
    Countries: 6.5 mm M41 series Sniper Rifles
    .303 cal. No. 4 Mark I (T) Ajack 4x90 mm (German),
    No. 32 (M32 variants) Aga 3x65 mm (M42 or M44)
    Non-issue: Lyman Alaskan, Non-issue: Weaver K4
    Weaver K2.5 or K3
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    ble 7-- Vintage Sniper Rifles and Scopesifles Scopes
    Japan:
    6.5 mm Type 38 Sniper Rifle
    6.5 mm Type 97 Sniper Rifle
    6.5 mm Type 99 Sniper Rifle
    7.7 mm Type 99 Sniper Rifle
    Original scopes only
    "If everyone is thinking alike, then someone isn't thinking." - George S. Patton

  • #2
    I wish I could go to this, damn family vacation. I'd even lend out rifles. Thanks for posting the new M40A3/M40A5 updates. Awesome! Maybe next year.

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    • #3
      Mike, they typically have this match twice a year, in April and in September, so perhaps you can attend the September match, assuming they follow the same schedule they have used the past few years. (We had about 8 or 9 wild turkeys wander onto the edge of the range last September. It was a good laugh, but no turkeys were hurt during the match).
      Last edited by Random Guy; 03-14-2016, 07:29 AM.

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      • #4
        I'm not stranger to MCCDC Quantico. I spent three years there at TBS as an instructor. I poached many deer there and cooked them during extended winter field ops. Keep us posted on the September match...that maybe doable.

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        • #5
          This is great. I wish we had vintage Match here..

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          • #6
            So who all is planning to go to the April event?
            "If everyone is thinking alike, then someone isn't thinking." - George S. Patton

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            • #7
              I might be able to make it but, that would require me to go with the wife to the Boston marathon. Hmm...

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              • Game Warden
                Game Warden commented
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                Go shoot kick ass long range with storied weapons. Go with her and ride a bike. Problem solved.

            • #8
              It's looking like my work schedule is freeing up so I am planning on shooting both Sat and Sun with my A1. And the weather is supposed to be really nice!!

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              • #9
                I so want to go to this.

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                • #10
                  I guess I need to find an 03. That's the only rifle I have an accepted scope for.

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                  • Game Warden
                    Game Warden commented
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                    From what I hear, they will loan you an M40A1 there.

                  • ottoman
                    ottoman commented
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                    No they don't loan out A1's

                  • Game Warden
                    Game Warden commented
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                    They don't loan out M40A1s on the firing line? Cheap bastards. Why in the Hell do they even bring them down? Is it for the paparazzi? Lease at least tell me they let people shoot them.

                • #11
                  Unfortunately I wont be able to be there. I hope to make it next event. I do have some photo request if possible for those that are going. Im looking for pics of M40a1's. Just a lot of detail pics that we all want. Also if they have any other issued guns there.

                  Thanks

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                  • #12
                    I was able to do the match on both days and was able to shoot with Lear60Pilot as my shooting partner. We had fun, the weather was very nice both days and a good time was had by all. I shot my 1903A1 clone with somewhat mixed results on Saturday, and shot my M24 rebuild on Sunday with very good results, esp at 800 yards. Lear60Pilot also shot very well on both days of this match with his M40A1 clone. (The wind became a little erratic on Saturday afternoon during the 600 yard match, but was calmer on Sunday). I have a slight sunburn from the match, but it was well worth it. Other than a lack of volunteers to pull targets this weekend, it was as good a match as one could ask for (I confess to being a little spoiled by target pullers in the previous matches at Quantico...but the exercise wasn't bad).

                    FWIW: One note re the request of pictures of the M40A1s. Four of these rifles were brought out by one of the PWS guys, but I was surprised that all 4 of them lacked camo/painted stocks and scopes, and they all looked a like with plain woodland camo stocks. Last year all but 1 of the 7 or 8 rifles brought to the range had camo on both rifle and scopes - but apparently the PWS shop was subsequently ordered to strip off the paint on the stocks and scopes in late 2015 or early 2016...so I guess they all now look basically similar - with worn finishes. The good news, 20 of the A1s are still left in the Armory, and I think they will keep all of these in the A1 configuration for loaners for current or retired Marines that want to try them out, plus one or two "cut away" M40A1 rifles for training purposes. Here's one pic of a 6 digit M40A1 (I'll post some additional pics of two E prefix M40A1s that I took with my camera):

                    Most interesting moment? Well, one shooter and his girlfriend shot this match together, and on Sunday at the end of the match he had a very special target pop up that said "Marry Me?" - she was surprised and said yes, so that was a unique proposal...but apparently she likes to shoot and hunt, so I'm happy for both of them. (Their parents were there, so I guess they had a heads-up of some sorts and took pictures afterwards). Yep, a good time was had by all.

                    (fyi: I'll be getting my M40A5 clone back from C&H within a week, and Lear60Pilot will also get his M40A5 back together this month too, so perhaps one or both of us will use those rifle(s) in the next Quantico precision rifle match, which is typically in Sept...).
                    Last edited by Random Guy; 04-18-2016, 07:51 AM.

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                    • Random Guy
                      Random Guy commented
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                      pmclaine: I have only shot my 1903A1 at 300 and 600 yards, so I don't have data re come ups. You'll likely need some 'mojo' 30-06 loads for 1000 yards, and you might consider 175 grain bullets over 168 at that range.
                      I bought a couple of boxes of Sierra's new green tipped or 'Tipped Match King' 168 and 175 grain bullets to try at these extended ranges due to their improved ballistic coefficients (168 is listed as .535 and the 175 listed as .545).

                      The instruction manual for the Leatherwood repo 8x scopes claim 125 MOA of adjustment potential, so if that's correct, you should have enough elevation adjustment. Good luck and let us know how you do at that match,

                    • pmclaine
                      pmclaine commented
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                      Hey Random,

                      I was looking for some FGMM 30-06 at Walmart to use at 1000 but couldnt find it. I went with a box of the Creedmoor loaded with Lapua brass and bullets. I think they are 167 grain. I may swing through Cabelas again this week hoping to find some 175 30-06 in the match loading.

                      My scope is a 10X Unertl 1.25 Target. If I do have 46.5 MOA from my 100 zero I may just make enough adjustment from my 100 zero.

                      My primary gun for the class is going to be the M40A1. Im only shooting the 1903 just to see if it can scare those steel plates at that distance..
                      Last edited by pmclaine; 04-22-2016, 10:26 AM.

                    • pmclaine
                      pmclaine commented
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                      PS - My data book has me adding 22 MOA from my 100 zero to get 600 yards on a humid 70 degree day at 230 feet of real altitude using 46 grains of 4064 with a Nos CC 168. No idea on my reloads velocity.

                      That will leave me 24.5 MOA to play with. Maybe if I aim high on the silhouette he'll get gut shot.

                  • #13
                    Two of the E prefix M40A1s still at Quantico. (now with the camo paint stripped off rifle, stock and scope - note that one scope is basically now "in the white." I think the USMC might try to have these scopes refinished/restored, but that was just an anecdotal comment that I heard this weekend..just an fyi):
                    Last edited by Random Guy; 04-18-2016, 06:11 AM.

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                    • steveu
                      steveu commented
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                      Thanks for posting the pictures. I would really like to get there in September for the match.

                  • #14
                    It was a great time. RandomGuy gave a good recap. His M24 was a laser at 800 yards. The cool thing about this match is if you have a lot of different rifles that are allowed, you can shoot any of them. Before today, Random's M24 had only been zero'd and never shot more than a few rounds at 100 yards. He decided to bring it out today at the last minute for 800 and 1000 and it was a wise decision. As he said, we will probably switch it up for the next match and shoot the A5's.

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                    • #15
                      Thanks for the reports. I sure wish Camp Pendleton would put one of these on.
                      You can take a Marine out of the Corps, but you can't take the Corps out of a Marine.

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